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Viral infection in the nervous system cause of Trigeminal Neuralgia and MS?


#1

I've had various bouts with TN through the years, starting when I was about thirteen. Found relief with upper cervical chiropractic care, but the bouts would come back if my neck would get knocked out, or I was under high stress.

At 36, mid Feb 2016 after a couple years of being shock free through UCC, I started getting shocks again due to high stress at work and a neck injury. Got worse than ever, and for the first time I also had severe burning and light sensitivity in my eyes. Took a month off work, went to the chiropractor, and began to get some relief, but it was slower than before. Decided to do do some research into the cause and cure of TN.

The medical world seems to believe that a deterioration of the Myelin Sheath makes the nerves extra sensitive to the pulsating nearby blood vessels, as well as other input. and is the "cause" of TN. What they don't know is why it deteriorates, or how to stop it.

Researching how to rebuild that sheath led me to the national MS society, since a deterioration of the Myelin Sheath is also identified as a cause or related to MS.

The MS society has really good information on the studies that have been done. There are three facts that I discovered through the studies posted there:

1) A viral infection has been identified as a probable cause for MS

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS/What-Causes-MS/Viruses

2) MS risk rate increases the further away from the equator you live. This further supports the virus theory - colder temperatures result in greater viral prevalence and infections.

3) The Faroe Islands near Greenland - no MS cases until 1943 when the British occupied the island during WW2. Then many cases. Points to the fact a virus was brought to the island.

http://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS/What-Causes-MS/Clusters

Now add to those three things some other items:

1) Many people report TN or MS symptoms appearing a year or two after dental work such as a root canal.

2) Many people report (and my experience confirms) that stress is a trigger for TN

3) Many people report (and my experience confirms) that upper cervical chiropractic relieves TN, although success is not universal

4) 90% of the population has Epstein Barr, Herpes, or similar virus in their bodies.

5) The blood-brain barrier normally prevents viruses and bacteria from entering the nervous system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood%E2%80%93brain_barrier

6) I had a spinal tap at around age 11 or 12 and got my first TN shock a couple years later.

Putting those together, I came up with this theory:

TN, MS, and related diseases are caused by a viral infection in the nervous system. The viral infection is made possible when the blood/brain barrier is breached during a procedure such as a spinal tap or root canal where blood mingles with a major nerve root or spinal fluid. The virus begins to cause the deterioration of the Myelin. This make nerves over sensitive to pulsing from a blood vessel, and light touches from wind, shaving, eating, etc. An attack is the result of an accumulation of input – pounding from a tight blood vessel whips the nerve to a frenzy, and then the touch pushes it over the edge. MVD’s work sometimes because they relieve a portion of the input. Chiropractic works sometimes because of the same effect. A net decrease in nerve stimulation. What neither addresses is the root cause of deterioration of the Myelin that is being attacked by the virus.

The blood brain barrier makes nervous system diseases difficult to treat, since it keeps antibiotics out as well as bacteria and viruses. Additionally, it’s well known that antibiotics can’t kill viruses anyway.

So, there’s no solution unless you can kill the virus that’s causing the issue, and I’m not aware of any medication that can do it. In light of the above theory, my wife and I turned all our focus into trying to find something that is capable of killing the Herpes virus, the most common and likely suspect.

After a lot of research, one of the posts we found recommended olive leaf as able to kill Herpes.

More info here: http://www.olivus.com/herpes_olive_tea.htm

Someone else mentioned Lysine, along with Silver and Iodine. I started taking Silver and Iodine on Wednesday March 23rd, 2016 since we had it on hand, and immediately ordered Olive Leaf and Lysine.

Saturday night March 26th, 2016 is a day that I won’t forget. Had around 15-20 attacks that day. Saturday evening, after USPS stopped by with our order, I added a heavy dose of Olive Leaf and Lysine to the Silver and Iodine. Like the Olive Leaf product warned, I got a belly ache, and felt really bad Saturday night. Took some charcoal to help wash out the toxins. Woke up Sunday morning to a shock free world. Yesterday, that was three weeks ago, and I haven’t had a single shock since. Not one!!! I feel better than I’ve felt for at least a decade.

In all the years I’ve experienced TN symptoms, that’s never happened. For me, chiropractic can relieve the very worst immediately, but shocks continue and will diminish gradually over the course of 1-3 weeks until completely gone. That’s consistent with a pinched nerve/blood vessel combination getting a pressure relief, and input gradually being reduced.

I’d love if some others could try the combination I did, and see if it works for them.

To kill the virus, I took Olive Leaf, Silver, Iodine, Lysine. To rebuild nerves, I added Fish Oils, Zinc, Copper. It's supposed to take twelve weeks to get rid of Herpes, after which you can discontinue. My theory is that after you get rid of the virus, if you get re-infected, which is likely, it will not be a problem, since the blood/brain barrier will prevent entry of the virus into your nervous system outside of trauma where blood can directly enter the nervous system such as a root canal or spinal tap. .

If you’re interested in exactly the doses and stuff I used, feel free to let me know. I’ll be glad to post it as well if there’s enough interest. My goal is to help as many people as possible get rid of this absolutely horrible pain. It was the experiences posted here that often gave me hope and a path forward. I want to do the same for others.


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#2

I would like to know!

I have tried CBT oil with my prescribed meds, and it seems to help. I am out of the CBT oil now and my pain attacks are more frequent now. Up to about four a day which, for me, is still pretty good. I was having 15 an hour before I had any treatment....I hurt so bad I would throw up, and that made the pain even worse. My life was pure hell before I had gabapentin and amitriptyline. I have lost a substantial amount of weight, and I was not heavy to begin with. It concerns me, and my doctor that I have little to no appetite, and that my weight is so low. I would be concerned about the olive leaf making me ill. I am intrigued by your virus theory. I would love an explanation for this misery. Right, now, all my doctors (dentist, neuro and GP) are blaming it on trauma to that area of my face a couple of years ago. But, if it was the trauma itself I think I would have had severe attacks the entire time.


#3

George,
I like your proactive response to your condition and the research you have conducted, if it wasn't for your time on the site I'd thing you were selling Olive leaf extract. I'm adding a few points to your thread, not necessarily true- call it informed never the less possibly false I am open to contradiction.


I've had various bouts with TN through the years, starting when I was about thirteen. Found relief with upper cervical chiropractic care, but the bouts would come back if my neck would get knocked out, or I was under high stress. Stress affects the neck, breathing patterns, blood homeostasis etc. Neck gets knocked out would indicate a more bio-mechanical issue in conjunction with stress.

At 36, mid Feb 2016 after a couple years of being shock free through UCC, I started getting shocks again due to high stress at work and a neck injury. Got worse than ever, and for the first time I also had severe burning and light sensitivity in my eyes. Took a month off work, went to the chiropractor, and began to get some relief, but it was slower than before. Decided to do do some research into the cause and cure of TN. Depending on the neck problem, most get worse with age, so PT intervention will often take longer


The medical world seems to believe that a deterioration of the Myelin Sheath makes the nerves extra sensitive to the pulsating nearby blood vessels, as well as other input. and is the "cause" of TN. What they don't know is why it deteriorates, or how to stop it. If demylination is such an issue, why do more folk not have TN bearing in mind the trigeminal nerve root or REZ, consists of circa 30% unmylinated nerve fibres, including pain fibres?

Researching how to rebuild that sheath led me to the national MS society, since a deterioration of the Myelin Sheath is also identified as a cause or related to MS. Many folk reportedly wake up pain free after MVD surgery it won't have rebuilt myelin

The MS society has really good information on the studies that have been done. There are three facts that I discovered through the studies posted there:
1) A viral infection has been identified as a probable cause for MS
http://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS/What-Causes-MS/Viruses
2) MS risk rate increases the further away from the equator you live. This further supports the virus theory - colder temperatures result in greater viral prevalence and infections. Some research suggesting cold and and flu viruses prevalent in cold weather, certain african populations might argue otherwise with regard to viruses unless you think there is an untapped market for scarves and hot water bottles. There are other explanations including vitamin d. Admittedly a lack of, will lower yout immune system. Don't ask me, try Dragon's Den.
3) The Faroe Islands near Greenland - no MS cases until 1943 when the British occupied the island during WW2. Then many cases. Points to the fact a virus was brought to the island.
http://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS/What-Causes-MS/Clusters
Possibly before the brits occupied they had no knowledge of MS, which may have been rampant, and due to their latitude may also have been due to a vitamin d deficiency

Now add to those three things some other items:
1) Many people report TN or MS symptoms appearing a year or two after dental work such as a root canal. When my kid's have picked up a virus, symptoms are pretty quick and I tend to claim a golfing holiday "don't you remember darling", admittedly I don't play golf and by coincidence am now single.
2) Many people report (and my experience confirms) that stress is a trigger for TN
3) Many people report (and my experience confirms) that upper cervical chiropractic relieves TN, although success is not universal Sure, but then what PT would claim they could help/ cure every neck problem- a dishonest one.
4) 90% of the population has Epstein Barr, Herpes, or similar virus in their bodies. And yet TN incidence within the population is extremely low, if this was the cause then in immune compromised individuals of which there are many this wouldn't hold true.
5) The blood-brain barrier normally prevents viruses and bacteria from entering the nervous system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood%E2%80%93brain_barrier In a healthy individual
6) I had a spinal tap at around age 11 or 12 and got my first TN shock a couple years later.

Putting those together, I came up with this theory:
TN, MS, and related diseases are caused viral infection in the nervous system. The viral infection is made possible when the blood/brain barrier is breached during a procedure such as a spinal tap or root canal where blood mingles with a major nerve root or spinal fluid. The virus begins to cause the deterioration of the Myelin. This make nerves over sensitive to pulsing from a blood vessel, and light touches from wind, shaving, eating, etc. An attack is the result of an accumulation of input – pounding from a tight blood vessel whips the nerve to a frenzy, and then the touch pushes it over the edge. MVD’s work sometimes because they relieve a portion of the input. Chiropractic works sometimes because of the same effect. A net decrease in nerve stimulation. What neither addresses is the root cause of deterioration of the Myelin that is being attacked by the virus.
I don't believe the myelin to be an issue, but a combination of vascular compression and cervical issues may make sence, but why does the medical profession concentrate on the vascular issue- because they have little means of addressing the cervical issue and/ or it doesn't pay as well?

The blood brain barrier makes nervous system diseases difficult to treat, since it keeps antibiotics out as well as bacteria and viruses. Additionally, it’s well known that antibiotics can’t kill viruses anyway.
So, there’s no solution unless you can kill the virus that’s causing the issue, and I’m not aware of any medication that can do it. In light of the above theory, my wife and I turned all our focus into trying to find something that is capable of killing the Herpes virus, the most common and likely suspect.

After a lot of research, one of the posts we found recommended olive leaf as able to kill Herpes.
More info here: http://www.olivus.com/herpes_olive_tea.htm

Someone else mentioned Lysine, along with Silver and Iodine. I started taking Silver and Iodine on Wednesday March 23rd, 2016 since we had it on hand, and immediately ordered Olive Leaf and Lysine.

Saturday night March 26th, 2016 is a day that I won’t forget. Had around 15-20 attacks that day. Saturday evening, after USPS stopped by with our order, I added a heavy dose of Olive Leaf and Lysine to the Silver and Iodine. Like the Olive Leaf product warned, I got a belly ache, and felt really bad Saturday night. Took some charcoal to help wash out the toxins. Woke up Sunday morning to a shock free world. Yesterday, that was three weeks ago, and I haven’t had a single shock since. Not one!!! I feel better than I’ve felt for at least a decade.

In all the years I’ve experienced TN symptoms, that’s never happened. For me, chiropractic can relieve the very worst immediately, but shocks continue and will diminish gradually over the course of 1-3 weeks until completely gone. That’s consistent with a pinched nerve/blood vessel combination getting a pressure relief, and input gradually being reduced.
A virus isn't going to be immediately treated with chiropractic.

I’d love if some others could try the combination I did, and see if it works for them.
To kill the virus, I took Olive Leaf, Silver, Iodine, Lysine. To rebuild nerves, I added Fish Oils, Zinc, Copper. It's supposed to take twelve weeks to get rid of Herpes, after which you can discontinue. My theory is that after you get rid of the virus, if you get re-infected, which is likely, it will not be a problem, since the blood/brain barrier will prevent entry of the virus into your nervous system outside of trauma where blood can directly enter the nervous system such as a root canal or spinal tap. . Some 60% of folk don't equate TN with dental or invasive procedures, that is not to say I don't believe viruses can cause TN but it is the extreme few.
If you’re interested in exactly the doses and stuff I used, feel free to let me know. I’ll be glad to post it as well if there’s enough interest. My goal is to help as many people as possible get rid of this absolutely horrible pain. It was the experiences posted here that often gave me hope and a path forward. I want to do the same for others.


Despite the above, I like your post and your thought process and your wish to help others.


#4

Hi George, I have a somewhat similar story to yours. I started getting shocks when I was about 18. Upper cervical chiropractic gave me temporary albeit good relief for many years but the last 2 years it has stopped helping. It has been 10 years of having TN now for me.

I've also read about olive leaf but have never tried it. I'd be interested in hearing about the doses you are taking and any other supplements that are helping you.


#5

Thank you so much for posting this George.

Every way of thinking leading to relief is good thinking.

I try to figure out this monster every day myself and some of the things you say had crossed my mind also.

I would LOVE to know all about doses and all.

Thanks again,

Ellis.


#6

Sorry to take so long to get back to you....Working on design for a huge building project the last few days, so time was limited. I'm still doing absolutely perfect. My neck is no longer incredibly sensitive, I can work hard, lift heavy, with no fear of my neck going out and TN coming back. It's amazing. For those of you who are asking, here's the formula I followed with great success. And no, I have absolutely no affiliation with any of these companies products. Here's where I learned about the Olivus product:

http://www.life-saving-naturalcures-and-naturalremedies.com/natural-herpes-cure.html

On further consideration, I think the iodine may be a critical part of the mix because of it's involvement in stimulating the production of hormones, which are one of the only things that can easily cross the blood-brain barrier. I'm not sure Olive leaf alone would work..., but the combination of hormones and the antiviral properties of Olive Leaf gets through to the virus in the nervous system. I would recommend trying everything exactly like below. If you don't have tremendous results in 3-7 days, I'd be surprised. The only thing I ask is that you let me know your results, and share it with other people. Please do follow it as close as possible, though as I would like accurate analysis. You'll need to capsule machine, as the olive powder was way too bitter to take without encapsulating it, at least for me.

Week One:

Killing Virus Portion:

2X day - 1/2tsp Olive Leaf Max Extract powder (1/2 tsp 25% oleoropin formula)

7X day – 1 tsp Sovereign Silver (hold under tongue for 30 seconds, then swallow)

3X day – 2 drops Lugols Iodine (2% solution) (mix with a bit of water before taking)

3X day – 1000mg Lysine

Nerve Rebuilding Portion:

3X day – 2000mg Fish Oil

2X day – 30mg Zinc

1X Day – 2mg copper supplement

Weeks Two through Twelve

Killing Virus Portion:

2X day - 1/2 tsp Olive Leaf Max Extract powder (1/2 tsp 25% oleoropin formula)

2X day – 1 tsp Silver (hold under tongue for 30 seconds, then swallow)

2X day – 2 drop Lugols Iodine (2% solution) (mix with a bit of water before taking)

2X day – 1000mg Lysine

Nerve Rebuilding Portion:

2X day – 2000mg Fish Oil

1X day – 30mg Zinc

1X Day – 2mg copper supplement

Beyond Twelve weeks

Discontinue virus portion treatments. Recommend staying on a maintenance dose of fish oil and multivitamin or other source of Zinc/Copper for long term nerve rebuilding.

Here’s info on why Olive Leaf works:

http://www.olivus.com/herpes_olive_tea.htm

Notes:

You’ll feel pretty bad the first 2-3 days when taking the Olive Leaf due to the viruses and bacteria in your body dying and leaving off toxins. Taking charcoal during the first few days will help to flush those out of your body quicker and relieve symptoms.

Don’t Stop taking them when you feel better – you have to continue for twelve weeks to get rid of the virus

For more information on the Olive Leaf Extract, go to www.olivus.com

Please note that the Olive Leaf Max capsules that they sell there are not the same product as the Olive Leaf Max extract powder. The capsules they sell get mixed half and half with the Max powder and regular leaf grindings, so the result is less oleoropin content than the powder extract. Thus I’d recommend getting the powder and putting it in capsules or an alternative method of consumption. It’s extremely bitter, so capsules work best. Amazon sells capsule makers. I personally use the "00" size capsules, and 3 of those is equal to 1/2 tsp of the powder. So I take three in the morning, and three in the evening.

Products I bought:

Sovereign Silver

http://www.vitacost.com/natural-immunogenics-sovereign-silver-bio-active-silver-hydrosol

J.CROW'S® Lugol's Solution of Iodine 2%

http://www.vitacost.com/j-crows-lugols-solution-2-2-fl-oz-1

Olive Leaf Max Extract (we put this into capsules)

http://www.olivus.com/OliveLeafMAX-25-Oleuropein-Bulk-Extract_p_81.html

Mega EFA® Omega-3 EPA & DHA Fish Oil

http://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-mega-efa-omega-3-epa-dha-fish-oil-2100-mg-240-softgels-3

Capsule Connection 1000 Bulk Wholesale "00" Empty Gelatin Capsules

http://www.amazon.com/Capsule-Connection-Wholesale-Gelatin-Capsules/dp/B00428B6X6/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1461344123&sr=8-1&keywords=capsule+maker

The capsule machine - "00" size

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo92dGCt1Rc



Miss M said:

I would like to know!

I have tried CBT oil with my prescribed meds, and it seems to help. I am out of the CBT oil now and my pain attacks are more frequent now. Up to about four a day which, for me, is still pretty good. I was having 15 an hour before I had any treatment....I hurt so bad I would throw up, and that made the pain even worse. My life was pure hell before I had gabapentin and amitriptyline. I have lost a substantial amount of weight, and I was not heavy to begin with. It concerns me, and my doctor that I have little to no appetite, and that my weight is so low. I would be concerned about the olive leaf making me ill. I am intrigued by your virus theory. I would love an explanation for this misery. Right, now, all my doctors (dentist, neuro and GP) are blaming it on trauma to that area of my face a couple of years ago. But, if it was the trauma itself I think I would have had severe attacks the entire time.


Olive Leaf
#7

Can you please tell me what the CBT oil is and where one can get it?


Miss M said:

I would like to know!

I have tried CBT oil with my prescribed meds, and it seems to help. I am out of the CBT oil now and my pain attacks are more frequent now. Up to about four a day which, for me, is still pretty good. I was having 15 an hour before I had any treatment....I hurt so bad I would throw up, and that made the pain even worse. My life was pure hell before I had gabapentin and amitriptyline. I have lost a substantial amount of weight, and I was not heavy to begin with. It concerns me, and my doctor that I have little to no appetite, and that my weight is so low. I would be concerned about the olive leaf making me ill. I am intrigued by your virus theory. I would love an explanation for this misery. Right, now, all my doctors (dentist, neuro and GP) are blaming it on trauma to that area of my face a couple of years ago. But, if it was the trauma itself I think I would have had severe attacks the entire time.


#8

Thank you George, I just purchased your recipe and I will definitely let everyone know how it works for me. I appreciate you sharing and I have nothing to lose by trying. thanks again.


#9

Glad to hear it... truly hope it works for you like it has for me.

One note I will share with you...I took 2 teaspoons of olive leaf max the first time I took it due to confusing directions. Found out later that dose was for the liquid extract, not the powder. But, it knocked it literally overnight. I'm 6'4", 235lbs, and it didn't hurt me at all, so I recommend going higher with the dosages.

I've been experimenting more with higher olive leaf dosages, and can safely recommend at least doubling the doses that I listed previously. I'm currently using 1 teaspoon (6 "OO" capsules) in the morning and evening. The first time I took Olive Leaf, I took 12 capsules (2tsp) at a shot, and I was taking about 6-8 drops of iodine at least 2X daily.

There's not much danger of excessive Olive leaf. A heavy dose of Iodine is fine for a few days, but you don't want to be too heavy on that for months at a time.

I'd go at least 4-6 drops of the iodine 2X day for the first three weeks.

Please let us know how it works! Keep looking up!

Blessings


#10

George

The vitamin cocktail you recommended are coming in. I wont start them until I come back from vacation 5/22.Too many to bring on a plane. I am presently on Lyrical (titrating up) along with Elavil (titraing up). They are helping, however during the days, I still struggle. I promise I will keep in touch. I wish everyone a pain free life!

KM


#11

Hi George and others,

I attempted to start your cocktail this past Sunday but I couldn't continue drinking the olive leaf. It was toxic!! OMG. How awful. I stopped the program after 48 hours however I just received the capsules and made a few doses of the olive leaf. I restarted it tonight and will continue your program. I'm praying it helps. This is my second go around w/TN. 6 Years ago I had a successful ablation done on my right side and the devil came back on my left side. I'll keep my fingers crossed for everyone. If it works for me, maybe others will get success as well.

Pain free day for all.


#12

Hi KM,
Just wanted to follow up and see how the Olive leaf combination worked for you. I’ve been off Olive Leaf for six months since completing the three month treatment. Not a single bit of shocks or pain. I’m so incredibly grateful…hoping your’re feeling well too!


#13

Good morning George,

I appreciate your follow up. I may have only stuck with it for ~2 months
and honestly I don’t think it changed anything. My pain continued to get
worse as time progressed my meds continued to increase as well.
What i find interesting, I was on all meds for about 6 months (my time line
may not be that accurate), and the pain did subside. My neurologist
thought maybe i was in remission. I slowly weaned myself off all meds and
the pain was just about gone. This was short lived.
During this time of “pain free” I broke out with a fever sore (herpes I)
and 1 week later the pain came back in full force. I am now increasing my
meds just about daily, just to manage day to day. The pain is ridiculous.
I’m scheduled for MVD on 11/30 and mentally I’m ready.
I appreciate your follow up and Im so happy you found a treatment that was
successful. I wish you continued success.
Maybe there is some truth to the involvement of herpes virus and TN.
Thank you and good luck!
Kathy


#14

Good morning Kathy,
I’m so sorry to hear that’s you’re still going through the nightmare. The link with your herpes outbreak and the pain would align with the theory. Question is how to rid the virus from the nervous system. Olivus says it takes three months, and I think the lysine or one of the other supplements may be key to helping olive leaf fight it in the nervous system. Other sites say that time required to repair nerve damage is equal to the time that damage has been occurring. It may be worthwhile to try it for the full three months. Perhaps pursue a dual track.
Whatever you decide, may God bless you with healing and relief from this awful pain. If you go through with the MVD, I hope it brings relief.
Cleon


#15

Hi George
Thanks for the info.I just had a test that shows my thyroid is messed up-nodules-big ones under the side where my pain is.
Not sure if it is related.
I think I need to get my iodine checked before starting it.
Good luck with the building.so happy that someone has found away out of the med cycle.


#16

Ellen5
Are you actually Hyper?, like rapid heart rate, high temp, weight loss, anxious/skittery etc.
The first course of action is to reduce iodine intake like iodised salt, kelp, most packaged breads, start reading food labels.


#17

Hi Sparky
My TSH is low.
I have nodules,big ones on right side.I have lost a lot of weight-had just passed it off as not eating very much.
I sweat a lot-but really hot flashes are the same.
My heart rate is fairly low-maybe the narcotics balance it.
Have not taken my temp.
I phoned and asked my doctor for an iodine test today,but no response.
I have heard the reverse about iodine and hyper.
For the last six months or so I have craved salty foods,if I crave anything.Never liked salt before.
I have an appointment with an endocrinologist in August.I tried to bump it up but when he looked at the ultrasound results he said it was manageable`` So,I dont know.I have hyper TSH levels.Whether the nodules are the cause because they may be making hormone themselves i don`t know.
Is there a board for neuropathic face pain AND thyroid


#18

Hello all, so glad you are all here.

My iodine-intake is very low.
TN being caused by a virus seems not unlikely to me.

Thursday I took one pill with 200 ug iodine. That evening I got vertigo-spells.
Friday I got an HSV-1 break out (in my nose). I took the second iodine pill.
Saterday I was having a flash of TN1, still got the HSV-1, got hot-flashes, dry mouth and throat, nerve-needles at hands/arms. I was afraid to take another pil so I didn’t.
Now, Sunday, I got another TN1 lightning attack, now across my face, even more severe. I also feel my teeth hurt.
My ear-problems, TN1, Vertigo-problems are worse.

I was in TN-remission for months. This severe was more than a year ago.
I haven’t had HSV-1 outbreak for more than a year ago.
Never I had hot flashes before whatsoever (although in menopause).

It is clear to me the iodine is doing something.
Is this a ‘good’ sign as in the virus is having a hard time or is this bad as in having thyroid problems? What does this all mean?
I don’t know what to do now.

Thank you so much, wishing you a painfree day,
Ellis.


#19

Hi Ellis,
So sorry to hear you’re having attacks again…it’s so scary when they come back. I don’t think the iodine alone will attack and kill the virus. Perhaps try adding olive leaf as well as charcoal to the iodine…the olive leaf attacks the virus, the charcoal helps to wash the dead virus from your system so you don’t feel so bad. Another thing…if you haven’t tried an upper cervical chiropractor…please do so…it has helped many of us!
Blessings as you fight through this…


#20

Thank yo uso much for your answer George.

I began with the iodine because my diet contains to little iodine. I didn’t think a moment about my TN or a virus. It was only when I put one and one to getter and read this post when I did.

Your post and answer make a lot off sense to me. I understand that if you want to kill the virus you need a more ‘advanced’ approach, not just one item.

If the olive-leaf kills the virus and the charcoal washes away the dead virus, what is it that iodine does?
Why did I get (so promptly) these effects?

I am just curious, I want to understand which supplement is doing what.

Thank you so much again, wishing everyone well.